Water Puzzle
Dear Nieces and Nephews, last
week the Thunderous Stevie Neuhaus County Executive declared his commitment to
the environment in his “This week in Orange County” Feb 8th” press
release, in part:
STEVE
SAID: “This week Orange County
continued its commitment to open spaces and conservation. Part of our community’s
great value is found in its rural character. As someone who loves the
outdoors, it gives me great satisfaction to announce yet another timely
preservation action by my administration. On February 5, at my request, the legislature
voted unanimously to remove 95 acres of Glenmere Lake property in the Town of
Warwick from public sale and retain it for county purposes. The
conservation effort is consistent with a 2010 Orange County law authorizing
that delinquent tax properties could be removed from public sale after the
county forecloses on the property and prior to auction if the land was deemed
to be of public benefit. In this case, the newly acquired 95 acres will join approximately 695 acres
Orange County already owns in the Glenmere Preserve extending across the
towns and village of Warwick, Chester, and Florida as well as the hamlet of
Sugar Loaf.”
We are all familiar by now, with
Steve’s double speak (eg. Keeping Valley View “open”) Here he says “...from public sale and retain it for county purposes” surrounded by
the easily swallowed platitudes of ‘conservation’ ‘open spaces’ and ‘wildlife’,
along with his declaration of love for the outdoors. Sounds nice.
“RETAIN
FOR COUNTY PURPOSES"
What is a “county purpose? A Golf
Course, an Airport? What it really means is that the County owns this land and
can sell it if it wants to do so. Or use it as integral piece of an overall
plan.
Remember the Eddie Diana Water
loop? Eddie the former County Executive had a vision of a county wide, county
owned water supply: a series of interconnected water sources, where the county
controlled the flow: who gets how much and when. This water loop plan included
individually owned wells.
“What’s so bad about that?” You say.
“Plenty” says your Auntie
If you own property with a well
that supplies YOUR home (and others, if you choose,) why should a county level
of government be able to SEIZE your water? Then the county will have a right to
redirect the flow anywhere! (And then charge you for it!) If you are a
self-sustaining municipality in regard to water (and most are in OC) why do you need the County
level of Government imposing control over something your municipality is
already administering? Why would the County Executive want such control? Why, to
direct where the water goes and because, the county executive, through the OCWA
would then establish the water rates, the amount that you would pay. As far as
the individually owned wells, the owners of those properties would essentially
be paying the county for their own water! And the same for the municipalities
with their own water systems whether they be aquifers, wells or reservoirs.
Remember. like the IDA, the Orange County Water Authority (OCWA) has the power of eminent domain.
And we all will be paying off the
bonds for something that was not needed, except to change the structure of ownership.
There is another more sinister
reason for not wanting county or state controlled water systems.
How can any of us be assured that
elected officials on the county and state levels will look out for our best
interests? We have many examples of elected officials catering to
municipalities with “the block vote” If such elected officials controlled “the
spigot” as Stevie has said, how can we be assured that the water will not be redirected
to areas that overwhelmingly supported that official, to the detriment of other areas?
"Now, Auntie, Politicians don’t
play favorites” you say. “And they are always open about their intentions.”
Auntie hopes that you are
kidding.
Just look at the county owned
lands on or near watershed areas or the plans to purchase such acreage. Here
are some examples:
“…the newly acquired
95 acres will join approximately 695 acres Orange County already owns in the
Glenmere Preserve”
Also, 24 acres along the Black
Meadow creek are county owned- another area identified in the OCW Master Plan
as a site for a reservoir. Water loop!
And the land for the Indigot
reservoir in Mount Hope is also county owned.
JUNE 18 2013 CC Agenda - City of
Middletown
Resolution to authorize the
Mayor to sign the attached Indigot Reservoir lease agreement
with the County of Orange for the
City to use potion of Indigot Reservoir site for the
impoundment of a water supply for
temporary and emergency purposes. (their grammatical error)
For this:
The County Executive gets
this:
The County Executive gets
full control.
Nice job, Joe-Joe, gambling with
city water.
The minutes for 6-18-13 show the
following: On motion of Ald. Sabnis
seconded by Ald. Masi
RESOLVED;
that the Common Council of the City of Middletown concurs with the Board of Estimate
and Apportionment and authorizes the Mayor to sign the attached Indigot
Reservoir lease
agreement with the County of Orange for the City to use potion of Indigot
Reservoir site for
the impoundment of a water supply for temporary and emergency purposes.
Roll
Call: Ayes: Ald. Ramkissoon, Luccketti, Sommers, Masi, Sabnis, Sierra, Pres.
Rodrigues-7
Abstain:
Ald. Amodio-1
Another example: The Dwaarkill
From the Times Herald Record
(THR) 1/24/13
The
Orange County Water Authority has won a $520,200 state grant to design a water
supply that would replace or supplement the wells now serving the hamlet of
Pine Bush and the Pine Bush School District.
The
money was part of $4 million distributed to 18 projects in the latest round of
Local Government Efficiency grants, administered by the Department of State.
The
Pine Bush project, estimated to cost $6.1 million, would involve tapping wells in the
county-owned Dwaarkill property in Crawford, treating the water and piping it
to Pine Bush, two miles away. The county's consultants recommend using
three wells capable of yielding 490,000 gallons a day, far more than currently
used at peak demand.
That’s a huge amount of water!
Which municipality, in that area, needs enough water for over 10,000 people?
Viewed individually, each piece
of this puzzle appears innocuous; viewed as a whole, the puzzle creates
an entirely different picture. Can you see the entire puzzle yet?
With NYS identified as the state with the most politically corrupt environment in the US, do you feel comfortable
with politicians controlling such a precious asset, one of the necessities to sustain life? Do you?
It would be like putting John
Gotti in charge of the NY stock exchange, and the opening bell clanged by
Sheldon Silver.
And remember what Steve Said in
the press release above:
“Part of our community’s great value is found in its rural character”
“Part of our community’s great value is found in its rural character”
More doublespeak?
8 Comments:
Thought you would enjoy this thread Auntie ... sort of related ... but does the CE endorse the position of his Commissioner of Planning in the video discussed in this link regarding the Wallkill River and flooding?
Does he support Dave's condescending and duplicitous attitude and positions?
http://youtu.be/lBDi8qRWyZY
Auntie, you got me thinking and I started looking at some stuff on the OC website, which brought me to the OC Open Space Plan.(which is from 2004-no new one?)
Look at this and it is related to the Glenmere Lake "preserved land":
"Temporarily protected open space cannot be developed for a certain period of time due to a contractual agreement such as a term easement.
This category includes County-owned Reservoir Lands, West Point Military Academy, and privately owned land that receives a 480[a] tax exemption by the DEC for being in the forest management program."
Does this mean Glenmere Lake is TEMPORARILY protected?
Nephew Chris, we also found David to be condescending and did not appreciate his comment about the farmers "...despite their solutions...they are a force to be reckoned with"
Is that a bad thing? To pay attention to the farmers?
We do wonder about that gap in his resume.
There is a thread on the OC Govt page devoted to this Auntie, where I detail some of his duplicitous actions in the past. Some insider stuff found in my book you may find of interest:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/206469506147246/permalink/638308362963356/
Here are my three posted comments on the YouTube pages for 2 of the videos posted:
No, we farmers are not calling for flooding Ulster County. We have called for a comprehensive solution which calls for removing the problem all the way to the Hudson River. From New Jersey all the way to the Rondout Creek all the way to the Hudson River. Some farmers are only calling for caring for the problem in the Pine Island area, but that's not me or the majority of us. That's the people that OCSWCD and Dave look to serve.
No Dave, we don't bring it up for your case and we quite frankly don't give a crap where you live, though we do know by some of your comments you care more about recreational water users in Ulster County versus farmers and others that live in Orange County and have been destroyed by these floods.
What a jerk comment from Dave regarding "we farm in a flood plain." No kidding Dave, as I told the DEC moron years ago who said that, most of the best agriculture on the planet is in a flood plain. Ever hear of the Tigris, the Indus, the Nile, the Yellow river valleys? Farm much on a mountain Dave?
Dave's condescending attitude, his essentially "do-nothing" approach along with his duplicitous nature (he says different things in private to us farmer folks) is a primary reason why people hate government.
"Most of the models" Dave? Really? Who is "most" and who handpicked the "most" of these so-called experts?
We have had 7 "50 year" floods since 2005 and of them 3 or 4 were caused by 3-5 inch rain events. That river should handle that amount of rain. And regarding the camp of "flood benches" who is exactly "pitching" that Dave and who would be paid or compensated for that?
Follow the money folks.
In private conversation with then Orange County Legislator Tom Pahucki and I, in the spring of 2012 in Tom's Real Estate office Dave called for dredging the river and had a hair brained scheme that Orange County (versus the federal government) should do it and pay for it. That's a fact.
So, Dave's position on this or, to be frank virtually anything else, depends on:
A. Who Dave happens to be talking to at the moment
B. How what he says may in the end preserve or benefit Dave, because self preservation always comes first for Dave
My question still stands: Dave is the Commissioner of Planning, was what he was saying in this video the official position of Orange County Executive Steve Neuhaus and his administration?
Link for the 2nd video and my posted comment:
http://youtu.be/F26TAI8oT3o
My posted comment:
The trees should never had been there. It's a river pal. Notice what the river looks like on the other side of the bridge? See any trees and the like?
Here is the reason why those trees are there on that side. After the last ACOE project in 1985 the Town of Goshen was kept out of the maintenance agreement. The Town Supervisor at the time said if Goshen was kept out of it the Town, off the books, would continue to maintain the river and keep it clear of trees. After that Supervisor lost his re-election there was no institutional memory and the trees started to grow in the river.
Trees don't belong in this class of stream. Period. It is absurd and those trees blocked water flow and exacerbated flooding. The next time it floods if it's found that these trees are a part of the problem the farmers of the area will be filing the mother of all lawsuits and many people will be named Fred in that lawsuit. Anyone that exacerbated the flooding will be named.
Until the County Executive publicly states something to the contrary I have to assume what his Commissioner of Planning states in this video is his official position on the Wallkill River and flood mitigation/control.
At the Chamber event today during Q&A I raised two issues with Sen. Schumer, labor/immigration reform and the flooding of the Wallkill River. The Senator had discussed on a theme of infrastructure projects and needs and I pointed out 3-5 inch rain events should not cause the types of floods we have seen and a worthwhile infrastructure project would be digging this river. The Senator and the room seemed to agree.
The County Executive was in the audience but didn't say a word about it.
I can also report I have shared this video with NUMEROUS elected officials and staff on all levels of government. They are all shaking their heads about it. One person commented, "Jeeze, did Dave realize the camera was running?"
Here is another thing ... Dave implies in this video that somehow the "dumb" farmers are manipulating Rep. Maloney to fighting for "our" idea to dig/deepen/widen/dredge the river, "fast forward" as Dave puts it, whatever that actually means.
Wait a minute, again, the last ACOE Study in 1983 called for "channel modification" or dredging the river. I've worked with the Congresspersons and staff of Gilman, Kelly and Hall and all of them felt that river needed to be dug. Even Nan Hayworth nominally agreed (her objection was over the federal government paying for it, or anything else). This is not a new idea on the part of Maloney, it is something that should have been done 30 years ago.
At an Orange County Chamber of Commerce event held 2/19/15 Sen. Charles Schumer agreed that to dig/deepen/widen/dredge the river would be a very worthwhile federal government infrastructure project. Rep. Maloney was in attendance and did not disagree.
What does Dave know that they don't? Oh. that's right, Dave doesn't live in Orange County. In fact, your major opponents of dredging the river either
A. don't live in Orange County
or
B. don't live anywhere near the river and have not been directly impact by the devastating flooding we have experienced since 2005.
How community minded of them all. Whatever you may think of their "practical solutions to fix this."
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